gnu官网被墙了?

刚才我想在我平板电脑上下一个emacs,上gnu官网一看发现一直进不去,是不是被墙了还是怎么样。按理来说gnu官网不至于被墙啊

我这里没有,fsf土豆服务器不定时发芽🌱罢了

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AFAIK, GNU servers have to block large residential ranges from China from time to time because of LLM crawlers. You might have been unlucky.


据我所知(AFAIK),GNU 服务器不得不时不时地屏蔽来自中国的大量住宅 IP 段,因为大语言模型(LLM)爬虫。你可能运气不太好。

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刚手机上试了一下,没问题,关了wifi用流量结果就开了(貌似好多网站都这样),4g流量不属于住宅ip段吗

国内竟然还有人爬 GNU?不敢相信,不都是围着 m$ 等私有软件在打转吗?

也许是做镜像代理,爬M$ github的更多

据推测是大量肉鸡

感觉一语成谶,最近也用上国内镜像了,php.ac.cn ,php官网在我这有快半月打不开了(家庭宽带非流量),不同于以往,过去只是打开慢或者第二天就恢复正常了,十多天都开不了还是第一次遇到

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现在 LLM 这么火,很多 LLM 爬虫去爬 GNU 的服务器,经常会小水管顶不住爬然后就 down 了。

当然,现在很多项目都会部署 Anubis 或者 Iocaine 这种毒杀 LLM 爬虫的软件,但是 FSF 认为像 Anubis 这样的工具本质上就是让用户挖矿,是强迫用户运行他们不想运行的软件,进而违悖了「自由软件」的精神。

At the FSF, we do not support this scheme because it conflicts with the principles of software freedom. The Anubis JavaScript program’s calculations are the same kind of calculations done by crypto-currency mining programs. A program which does calculations that a user does not want done is a form of malware. Proprietary software is often malware, and people often run it not because they want to, but because they have been pressured into it. If we made our website use Anubis, we would be pressuring users into running malware. Even though it is free software, it is part of a scheme that is far too similar to proprietary software to be acceptable. We want users to control their own computing and to have autonomy, independence, and freedom. With your support, we can continue to put these principles into practice.

即便抛开 Anubis 的自由软件伦理问题不谈,GNU 服务器本身就存在技术债务问题,Guix 维护者 Ludovic Courtes 就在他自己的 mastodon 账号上指出

AFAIK, as former “semi-insider” (this part is managed by FSF staff and is fairly opaque), www.gnu.org runs on different servers than Savannah & co. But all these services have a terrible technical debt, as you note.

Example: to have a web page show up on www.gnu.org, one has to commit HTML files in a CVS repo that is then checked out by some machinery, which also does “server-side includes” (raw HTML post-processing like in the 90’s). :slight_smile:

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记得我很多年前第一次听说BT down时,说法是下载的人越多速度就越快,当时只感觉神奇,现在看感觉这可能就是应对爬虫的最好办法,抓取网站等于给网站做加速,也许有一天这样的技术真的会流行