GNU Hyperbole 8.0.0 发布

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https://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/HY-NEWS.html

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第一次知道这个东西。。。

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没看懂是做什么的 :thinking:

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挺复杂的，相当于是给纯文本增加更多互动性，demo 里部分演示和 hydra 有点像，但它还可以设置按钮什么的，没太看明白。

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我也没看明白，只知道他和 emacs 和 markup 有关系。。。

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劝退。。。。

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想知道和org有什么不同？

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https://www.gnu.org/software/hyperbole/DEMO

确实有点复杂呀

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作者的演示也有点糟糕，我看了半天…

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Reddit 上翻到一个人他怎么使用，然后作者也承认其实和 embark 有点类似：

I use hyperbole consistently and had the same difficulty you did wrapping my head around it. I started in the following way:

  1. I began using HyControl first. What does this do? You get a neat way to manipulate windows and frames from the keyboard. It’s easily the simplest thing to begin with.
  2. I started using global buttons next. I used to litter my filesystem with small 3-4 line shell scripts. I don’t anymore because I’ve added global buttons to encapsulate the scripts and call them. Same thing with elisp functions I’ve written, I don’t typically call them interactively anymore but use the global buttons to call and organize them.
  3. I expanded from global buttons to explicit buttons added to files. My personal favorite are my <encrypt> and <decrypt> buttons in an org-file as I don’t need to remember org-encrypt-entry and org-decrypt-entry as the buttons wrap those for me.
  4. I then started using implicit buttons. These are actually the easiest of everything I’ve mentioned so far but they didn’t make sense to me for the longest time.
  5. I gave the outliner a fair shake. It works well and has a neat functionality–you can reference other cells and the reference will update when the target cell moves. Personally, I can’t see using it very often as I like org-mode more. However, I’d say it would be a great choice for people working in environments where requirements tracking is crucial (e.g. CMMI).
  6. I started using HyRolo for my personal contacts. It’s fine but not particularly compelling.

Capabilities I barely use:

  • search
  • section marking (this isn’t the right name but it’s fundamentally a way to grab text between parens or curly braces).
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我也看不太明白这个是怎么用的，不过当我看到 按钮可以链接到信息或可以执行命令，与外部程序通信，这个感觉就和我的 orgcms 很像了，我就是在org-mode内做了几个按钮，用点击动态改变org buffer内容的办法使其具有一些交互功能

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对，和你的想法和做法都有一点相似，只不过它不同的是已经发展出一套库出来了。8.0版本重点是直接可以和 org-mode 搭配着用，期待你动手测试一下。我还在学习 elisp 中，尚未有动手测试的条件。

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我只能尽量了，因为我elisp水平也很菜，可能还不如你呢

我遇到的几乎所有稍微复杂点的elisp问题(如解析org文件)，都是一个解决办法：发个http请求把数据传给后端php处理，结果返回elisp，包括 弹出补全文档、编译elc文件 全都是这招通吃。

这样做虽然也能解决问题，但显得简单粗暴，对提高elisp水平也豪无帮助

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我几次想尝试把这个东西加到我的日常流程里，但怎么看怎么觉得没用⋯⋯

作者小哥是真的不会给 talk，听他的报告感觉更糊涂了，上来就是一堆 button。

可以玩个游戏：看小哥的报告，每次他说 “button” 的时候就下楼做一次核酸⋯⋯

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我觉得这个包有点意思，但说实话的， 表达方面真是一言难尽…和你一样，我没办法把视频看完，每一次都不行…

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